Wanted a next step up from Amazon gym reaper wraps as they are super stretchy and light, got convinced to buy pioneer heavy wraps which feel like they're made of solid rubber and don't stretch whatsoever, they also hurt my wrist bones like hell. Tried these as a middle ground and they are great. Definitely wouldn't want them any more stiff they are as stiff as I'd ever want them to be but they have a bit more stretch to make them more form fitting and don't hurt my wrist. Much higher quality than an Amazon wrist wrap too. If you're not sure if heavy wraps are for you get these you can wrap them tight and they offer the same stiffness if not more than any heavy wrap.